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19 November 2005 - 22:15 UTC

First lesson

by Jack Grant

When I was in graduate school, I spent some time as a teaching assistant. One of the classes I taught was the laboratory session for a basic Physics class that was a requirement for people majoring in Education. I had several interesting experiences while teaching those classes.

I always felt that whoever had put together the series of lab experiments did an outstanding job of overcoming the “first lab session” problem. The lab sessions started the same week as the lectures, occasionally as soon as the same day as the first class session. The goal was to use the lab to reinforce the concepts that had been covered earlier in the lecture, so the first lab was always a difficult problem.

In the first lab the only equipment we used were meter-sticks (yes, we used metric) and rubber balls. The students would drop the ball from different heights and measure how far they bounced back up. They were then to plot the results, with the drop height on the x-axis of a graph and the bounce height on the y-axis. To get technical, the drop height was the independent variable, and the bounce height was the dependent variable. To complete the lab the students had to predict how high the ball would bounce from a given height, and they were to call me to observe their verification of their hypothesis.

In other words, they made a series of observations, analyzed the data, and made a prediction about the future based upon the data and the trend they saw in the data. The fundamental lesson was the scientific method along with a powerful example of the predictive power arising from the scientific method.

Technology arises out of this predictive power of science. My job is in the semiconductor industry, performing research on new structures and materials to make transistors, the switches that are the heart of computers, smaller and faster. We rely on science to predict how materials and structures will behave, and the behavior must be reproducible, otherwise, nothing would work.

Science says nothing of things that cannot be measured because in those cases predictions are impossible.

Put simply and straightforward, science does not refute God in any of the many forms humanity has chosen to conceive the inconceivable.

This is why the attitude of fundamentalist Christians towards the theory of evolution baffles me.

Science merely seeks to explain how things occur.

Science does not try to explain why.

Science does not refute God.

Yet, many who claim to follow God try to destroy science, despite the myriad benefits of technology arising from science that they enjoy every day.

Perhaps one day I will understand, but today I do not.

Neither science nor those who practice it are perfect. No theory explains everything, and the universe is too complex to predict every event to perfect precision.

This is not a failure of science, this shows the limitations inherent in how things work.

A model complex enough to exactly simulate the universe and make predictions with perfect accuracy would be as large as the universe itself.

Those advocating “intelligent design” insist upon this perfection, otherwise, science in their eyes is inadequate according to the “refutations” they try to present, even though they do not impose this same requirement upon themselves.

Science and faith can coexist. True science does not repudiate faith, and true faith does not repudiate science.

Far too many try to replace science with faith when they do not overlap.

Are their beliefs so frail that they must destroy anything they perceive is not in perfect alignment?

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I agree 100%, Jack. Great post.

“Yet, many who claim to follow God try to destroy science, despite the myriad benefits of technology arising from science that they enjoy every day.”

Speaking from the “other side,” I must state that the opposite is quite true, as well – many who claim faith in science (alone) try to figuratively destroy God, despite the many benefits from Him that they enjoy everyday.

I was raised in an atheistic (“agnostic” was the claim) household, where any religion, but expecially Christianity, was held in mocking contempt, and all faith was placed in the hope of completely secular science. Anything remotely metaphysical (including discussions of quantum physics) was harshly ridiculed, and any question that remained unanswered was excused as awaiting the next great breakthrough in one or more of the scientific disciplines.

Without going into a lengthy defense of religious faith, let me just suggest (as you touched on yourself) that the two arenas are not distinct or seperate in any way from one another – Dad used to point out the exact, predictible nature of mathematics as “proof ” God did not exist, for example. I believe quite strongly the opposite, that finding consistancy and predictability in seemingly random systems (as Glick explained in his book “Chaos” some years ago), suggestions very strongly the existance of an “intelligent designer,” e.g. God.

The way I see it, there was (and is) indeed an “intelligent designer,” God, creator of the heavens and the earth, whose methods and intents may often be tracked and studied through the use of scientific methodology. I am a historian and seminarian, and make use of the same tools you do in reserching my own fields. If God is one of a random and unpredictible nature, then this, and indeed all of “science”, would be a futile effort. Because He is very, very consistent, unchangeable, and to a high degree predictible, then both faith and science can exist side by side quite comfortably.

I’ve often thought (and preached) that the study of faith is the study of “why” and the study of sciences is the study of “how”.

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