Comments on: The descent of “discussion” and “debate” into “screaming past each other” http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/ One more roll of the dice... Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:26:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Mark http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2527 Mark Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:36:02 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2527 There you go again. There you go again.

]]> By: tas http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2525 tas Tue, 25 Oct 2005 03:27:10 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2525 Calling somebody on their use of profanity is usually the mark of someone who doesn't actually have a point. As for running from an argument, I don't care what you call it. You'll call it whatever the fuck you want, anyways; at least where I'm concerned. Boyd came right out and said that since the views were voiced by me, that makes them invalid. So if that's the "argument" which you support, then more power to you. However, in the world of non-make believe, "arguments" like that don't wash. Arguments on points of the matter do. And as far as I'm concerned, the right hasn't provided any of those -- They've simply gotten angry with me and resorted to slander, character defamation, and outright lying. So if somebody wants to argue me on points, fine. But fuck this bullshit. If that's what you call an "argument", then you've got yourself a lot of fucking learning to do, Mark. Calling somebody on their use of profanity is usually the mark of someone who doesn’t actually have a point.

As for running from an argument, I don’t care what you call it. You’ll call it whatever the fuck you want, anyways; at least where I’m concerned. Boyd came right out and said that since the views were voiced by me, that makes them invalid. So if that’s the “argument” which you support, then more power to you.

However, in the world of non-make believe, “arguments” like that don’t wash. Arguments on points of the matter do. And as far as I’m concerned, the right hasn’t provided any of those — They’ve simply gotten angry with me and resorted to slander, character defamation, and outright lying.

So if somebody wants to argue me on points, fine. But fuck this bullshit. If that’s what you call an “argument”, then you’ve got yourself a lot of fucking learning to do, Mark.

]]> By: Mark http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2515 Mark Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:36:01 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2515 Tas is projecting - again. He is the one who has to win at all costs. The last argument of the incompetent is to throw a fit and run away. The profanity is essential: It's all he's got left. That's all the left has got. Tas is projecting - again. He is the one who has to win at all costs. The last argument of the incompetent is to throw a fit and run away.

The profanity is essential: It’s all he’s got left. That’s all the left has got.

]]> By: jae grenier http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2512 jae grenier Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:40:12 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2512 The problem is that freedom of speech has descended into freedom of SCREECH. The problem is that freedom of speech has descended into freedom of SCREECH.

]]> By: Bob J Young http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2510 Bob J Young Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:35:24 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2510 Well, I prefer to use the term “cyber bulliesâ€? rather than “fucking assholesâ€?. I've had some discussions in the past with people like that. If someone refuses to acknowledge that a point you made is valid, are you really having a discussion? One sure way to smoke out a cyber-bully is to say, “I don't think thats true. Can we just agree that our perspectives are different?â€? If they just keep going then you know their mind is closed. Well, I prefer to use the term “cyber bulliesâ€? rather than “fucking assholesâ€?. I’ve had some discussions in the past with people like that. If someone refuses to acknowledge that a point you made is valid, are you really having a discussion? One sure way to smoke out a cyber-bully is to say, “I don’t think thats true. Can we just agree that our perspectives are different?â€? If they just keep going then you know their mind is closed.

]]> By: Bou http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/23/the-descent-of-discussion-and-debate-into-screaming-past-each-other/#comment-2507 Bou Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:23:15 +0000 http://www.randomfate.net/MT/?p=1595#comment-2507 There are assholes on both sides of the political spectrum. This is why I can't do a political blog. I can't take the assholes. There are assholes on both sides of the political spectrum. This is why I can’t do a political blog. I can’t take the assholes.

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