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	<description>One more roll of the dice...</description>
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		<title>By: Pererro</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-3036</link>
		<dc:creator>Pererro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 04:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;G'night&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, working on books means less obsessive late night blogging, I fear. So, I leave you with a few links:</description>
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<p>Well, working on books means less obsessive late night blogging, I fear. So, I leave you with a few links:</p>
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		<title>By: California Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-3027</link>
		<dc:creator>California Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;PajamaGate: OSM vs MSM &#8212; Will The Blogosphere Go Corporate?&lt;/strong&gt;

	We&#8217;ve always wanted to use &#8220;gate&#8221; in something.
	This morning, Glenn &#8220;Instapundit&#8221; Reynolds cheerfully reports: GET IT RIGHT THE SECOND TIME: OSM is going back to &#8220;Pajamas Media.&#8221; 
	&#8220;About time: I liked ...</description>
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<p>	We&#8217;ve always wanted to use &#8220;gate&#8221; in something.<br />
	This morning, Glenn &#8220;Instapundit&#8221; Reynolds cheerfully reports: GET IT RIGHT THE SECOND TIME: OSM is going back to &#8220;Pajamas Media.&#8221;<br />
	&#8220;About time: I liked &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-3017</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;From Pajamas Media to OSM and back again&lt;/strong&gt;

Since we have posted on the OSM/Pajamas Media story, including name change, here at The Moderate Voice before, we now note that the name is being </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>From Pajamas Media to OSM and back again</strong></p>
<p>Since we have posted on the OSM/Pajamas Media story, including name change, here at The Moderate Voice before, we now note that the name is being</p>
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		<title>By: ubu roi</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-3015</link>
		<dc:creator>ubu roi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep that sounds like my experience.  Except somewhere along the way I got a 3rd piece or one of the first two asked me to confirm I was still interested. Something like that. Then I got an email saying that my invite to the big party in NY would be coming soon.  Which I never got.  But when it started up, my blog was in the roll.... I'm still waiting on, you know, some idea of what it obligates and entitles me to, to be a  part of the former Pajamas Media.  And I'm not really going to worry or blog about it much more. I hope they right the ship, but time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep that sounds like my experience.  Except somewhere along the way I got a 3rd piece or one of the first two asked me to confirm I was still interested. Something like that. Then I got an email saying that my invite to the big party in NY would be coming soon.  Which I never got.  But when it started up, my blog was in the roll&#8230;. I&#8217;m still waiting on, you know, some idea of what it obligates and entitles me to, to be a  part of the former Pajamas Media.  And I&#8217;m not really going to worry or blog about it much more. I hope they right the ship, but time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Fate &#187; Backstory time for Pajamas Media/OSM</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2992</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Fate &#187; Backstory time for Pajamas Media/OSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dennis the Peasant tells his side of the story with respect to Pajamas Media. While it should be read keeping the source in mind, much of what he describes is very consistent with events after he stopped working with those involved in creating OSM, including the erratic communication and changing business plan. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dennis the Peasant tells his side of the story with respect to Pajamas Media. While it should be read keeping the source in mind, much of what he describes is very consistent with events after he stopped working with those involved in creating OSM, including the erratic communication and changing business plan. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2991</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A bit of backstory on Pajamas Media/OSM&lt;/strong&gt;

Dennis the Peasant tells his side of the story with respect to Pajamas Media.  While it should be read keeping the source in mind, much of what h...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A bit of backstory on Pajamas Media/OSM</strong></p>
<p>Dennis the Peasant tells his side of the story with respect to Pajamas Media.  While it should be read keeping the source in mind, much of what h&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Random Fate</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2954</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The problem is that they are entering step 2 of the business plan, after collecting the underpants (and discarding the ones that didn&#8217;t make the cut), and they still haven&#8217;t found the person who knows what step 2 actually is. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The problem is that they are entering step 2 of the business plan, after collecting the underpants (and discarding the ones that didn&#8217;t make the cut), and they still haven&#8217;t found the person who knows what step 2 actually is. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fotos</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2952</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fotos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put. I wish them well and hope everyone can be happy in a bloggy kind of way. But as a fellow small fry, I feel the same way you do.

One of the original conceptions that was thrown out the window was aggregation of "the long tail;" and don't forget they invited bloggers of all sizes to sign the NDA. 

But OSM is inscrutable even on the basis of simple traffic. I read that The Moderate Voice wasn't invited to join, even though he'd been in contact with them. TMV has terrific traffic and substantially higher than some of the blogs OSM has signed up (based on open sitemeters I checked).

So I have no idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put. I wish them well and hope everyone can be happy in a bloggy kind of way. But as a fellow small fry, I feel the same way you do.</p>
<p>One of the original conceptions that was thrown out the window was aggregation of &#8220;the long tail;&#8221; and don&#8217;t forget they invited bloggers of all sizes to sign the NDA. </p>
<p>But OSM is inscrutable even on the basis of simple traffic. I read that The Moderate Voice wasn&#8217;t invited to join, even though he&#8217;d been in contact with them. TMV has terrific traffic and substantially higher than some of the blogs OSM has signed up (based on open sitemeters I checked).</p>
<p>So I have no idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Fate</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2940</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pajamas Media, the folks who signed up some 300-plus bloggers for a &#8220;subversive new media&#8221; and then uncerimoniously dropped the 270-plus small-fry, publicly announced they had renamed themselves to Open Souce Media last night. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pajamas Media, the folks who signed up some 300-plus bloggers for a &#8220;subversive new media&#8221; and then uncerimoniously dropped the 270-plus small-fry, publicly announced they had renamed themselves to Open Souce Media last night. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Poor Man Institute &#187; Bunched PJs</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2909</link>
		<dc:creator>The Poor Man Institute &#187; Bunched PJs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This does sound pretty bad, except when you consider that PJs, a company with no product, no business model, and - oh yeah - no name, has already managed to dump 230 of its initial 300 &#8220;employees&#8221; without explanation. Tony Pierce comments: proving to all of us who are paying attention, that Pajama Media will accept you if you defend American Terrorism, torture, perjury, outting of CIA agents, deficit spending, lies, traitors, and foul play&#8230; but titties on dvds is over the line. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This does sound pretty bad, except when you consider that PJs, a company with no product, no business model, and - oh yeah - no name, has already managed to dump 230 of its initial 300 &#8220;employees&#8221; without explanation. Tony Pierce comments: proving to all of us who are paying attention, that Pajama Media will accept you if you defend American Terrorism, torture, perjury, outting of CIA agents, deficit spending, lies, traitors, and foul play&#8230; but titties on dvds is over the line. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LGFWatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>LGFWatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count yourself lucky you aren't going to be associated with the racist writing of a frustrated Californian ex-hippie.</description>
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		<title>By: The Poor Man Institute &#187; There is so much fucking love in my heart</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2486</link>
		<dc:creator>The Poor Man Institute &#187; There is so much fucking love in my heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, how&#8217;s Pajamas Media - the nascent New Media weblogging juggernaut - going? Well, there are the inevitable rumblings of &#8220;elitism&#8221; from the hoi-polloi, but that is to be expected. There is also apparently some discontent among the 200+ bloggers who were originally included, but were then unceremoniously dumped - but one can&#8217;t make an omelet and all that. But there are, perhaps, some deeper problems as well. Let&#8217;s ask Dennis the Peasant, one of the original 4 partners: As those brave few who read this blog closely already know, I’ve made reference more than once to the fact that I was, at one time, 25% of what is now Pajamas Media. In fact, I was a part of that business before Charles Johnson was. The brave few will also note that I’ve made reference more than once to the fact that I’m not a part of Pajamas Media because Roger L. Simon (and his poodle, Charles J.) decided it to be worth their while to cut myself and another Central Ohio businessman out of the company and dole out our percentages to folks they deemed more likely to aid in the noble cause of lining their own pockets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, how&#8217;s Pajamas Media - the nascent New Media weblogging juggernaut - going? Well, there are the inevitable rumblings of &#8220;elitism&#8221; from the hoi-polloi, but that is to be expected. There is also apparently some discontent among the 200+ bloggers who were originally included, but were then unceremoniously dumped - but one can&#8217;t make an omelet and all that. But there are, perhaps, some deeper problems as well. Let&#8217;s ask Dennis the Peasant, one of the original 4 partners: As those brave few who read this blog closely already know, I’ve made reference more than once to the fact that I was, at one time, 25% of what is now Pajamas Media. In fact, I was a part of that business before Charles Johnson was. The brave few will also note that I’ve made reference more than once to the fact that I’m not a part of Pajamas Media because Roger L. Simon (and his poodle, Charles J.) decided it to be worth their while to cut myself and another Central Ohio businessman out of the company and dole out our percentages to folks they deemed more likely to aid in the noble cause of lining their own pockets. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Random Fate</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Fate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read &#8220;My experience with Pajamas Media&#8230;&#8221; and draw your own conclusions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] You can read &#8220;My experience with Pajamas Media&#8230;&#8221; and draw your own conclusions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todays Democracy : News, Feature Stories, Entertainment, Business, Science &#38; Technology</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/10/17/my-experience-with-pajamas-media/#comment-2457</link>
		<dc:creator>Todays Democracy : News, Feature Stories, Entertainment, Business, Science &#38; Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jack Grant from RandomFate has an interesting view.  &#8230;was not quite the one being publicized upon the launch of the new, &#8220;subversive&#8221; service ostensibly &#8220;striking a blow&#8221; against the &#8220;established media&#8221;. [...]</description>
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