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	<title>Comments on: This cannot stand</title>
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	<description>One more roll of the dice...</description>
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		<title>By: jgc</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/09/04/this-cannot-stand/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>jgc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 06:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's face it: the inadequate response here is mostly on the part of local (New Orleans) and state (LA) officials. There were so many simple things that could have been done by local authorities that would have saved lives, yet they weren't done. Why didn't Mayor Nagin get all of the city's buses (school and passenger) moved to the above-ground parking lots adjacent to the Superdome? Why didn't Mayor Nagin get a thousand porta-lets moved to the Superdome on Sunday? Why didn't Mayor Nagin have a plan to evacuate the city's poor, using the city's buses, the weekend before Katrina struck? Piss-poor planning. All federal disaster response is predicated on the assumption that state and local authorities can handle things for the first 72 hours. FEMA and the Guard got there on Thursday, and REALLY got into gear over the weekend. How could they have been much faster? You want accountability? How about holding the political leadership of New Orleans and Louisiana accountable for this clusterfuck... for once?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it: the inadequate response here is mostly on the part of local (New Orleans) and state (LA) officials. There were so many simple things that could have been done by local authorities that would have saved lives, yet they weren&#8217;t done. Why didn&#8217;t Mayor Nagin get all of the city&#8217;s buses (school and passenger) moved to the above-ground parking lots adjacent to the Superdome? Why didn&#8217;t Mayor Nagin get a thousand porta-lets moved to the Superdome on Sunday? Why didn&#8217;t Mayor Nagin have a plan to evacuate the city&#8217;s poor, using the city&#8217;s buses, the weekend before Katrina struck? Piss-poor planning. All federal disaster response is predicated on the assumption that state and local authorities can handle things for the first 72 hours. FEMA and the Guard got there on Thursday, and REALLY got into gear over the weekend. How could they have been much faster? You want accountability? How about holding the political leadership of New Orleans and Louisiana accountable for this clusterfuck&#8230; for once?</p>
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		<title>By: Bush is Incompetent</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/09/04/this-cannot-stand/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Bush is Incompetent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 16:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Random Fate comes to this point:&lt;/strong&gt;

The conclusion: Either we are being lied to in an effort of spin-control, or the people in charge of our government are incompetent beyond all comprehension or belief.

Personally, even though I despise being lied to, it is safer for my country if ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Random Fate comes to this point:</strong></p>
<p>The conclusion: Either we are being lied to in an effort of spin-control, or the people in charge of our government are incompetent beyond all comprehension or belief.</p>
<p>Personally, even though I despise being lied to, it is safer for my country if &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/09/04/this-cannot-stand/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that one of hilzoy's premises is wrong and &lt;a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2005/09/post_without_a_.html#comment-9084019" rel="nofollow"&gt;said as much&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for dropping by.  You might also be interested in my &lt;a href="http://theglitteringeye.com/?p=1326" rel="nofollow"&gt;historical perspectives on rebuilding cities&lt;/a&gt;.

I think that there are actually only two directions in which we can go if we really want to address the failures that  aggravated what would have been a terrible disaster regardless of what we'd planned or done.  Neither the city of New Orleans nor the state of Louisiana are departments of the federal government.  We could make them so.  Or we could abandon the illusory security of FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and other similar public relations entities and devolve the responsibility back to state and local government.

The failure of the levees is a variant of a &#147;tragedy of the commons&#148; problem.  The fundamental issue here is placing the responsibility for flood control on the Mississippi on the Army Corps of Engineers and, consequently, at the discretion of Congress.  Liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans have all fought adequate funding for flood control along the Mississippi.  Would it fare better if placed on the shoulders of state and local governments?  Probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that one of hilzoy&#8217;s premises is wrong and <a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2005/09/post_without_a_.html#comment-9084019" rel="nofollow">said as much</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for dropping by.  You might also be interested in my <a href="http://theglitteringeye.com/?p=1326" rel="nofollow">historical perspectives on rebuilding cities</a>.</p>
<p>I think that there are actually only two directions in which we can go if we really want to address the failures that  aggravated what would have been a terrible disaster regardless of what we&#8217;d planned or done.  Neither the city of New Orleans nor the state of Louisiana are departments of the federal government.  We could make them so.  Or we could abandon the illusory security of FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and other similar public relations entities and devolve the responsibility back to state and local government.</p>
<p>The failure of the levees is a variant of a &#8220;tragedy of the commons&#8221; problem.  The fundamental issue here is placing the responsibility for flood control on the Mississippi on the Army Corps of Engineers and, consequently, at the discretion of Congress.  Liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans have all fought adequate funding for flood control along the Mississippi.  Would it fare better if placed on the shoulders of state and local governments?  Probably not.</p>
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