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	<description>One more roll of the dice...</description>
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		<title>By: Sinequanon</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1734</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinequanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As all scientists know, however, everything is random and scientists are proving that more and more daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As all scientists know, however, everything is random and scientists are proving that more and more daily.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1735</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this might not appear the be a victory for creationists on the surface it still is.  Random genetic mutation is at the heart of Life's evolutionary engine, and statements such as these give creationists one more weapon of rhetoric to use in their fight.  The weight of evidence favors randomness, but you have to look below the surface press-releases to see it, and unfortunately most never take that step.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this might not appear the be a victory for creationists on the surface it still is.  Random genetic mutation is at the heart of Life&#8217;s evolutionary engine, and statements such as these give creationists one more weapon of rhetoric to use in their fight.  The weight of evidence favors randomness, but you have to look below the surface press-releases to see it, and unfortunately most never take that step.</p>
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		<title>By: TM Lutas</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1736</link>
		<dc:creator>TM Lutas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinequanon - All scientists know that everything is random? That's untrue, absurd, and unscientific, hyperbole at best. The evolution of domesticated species, both plant and animal, is absolutely not random. Any farmer or rancher can tell you that species can be guided in their evolution and can point to their fields for living examples of the results. 

Overreach by those claiming to be scientific in their thoughts is a great source of modern distrust in science. It's a corrosive fault that needs to be pruned out if science is to retain any semblence of the respect and trust that it should have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinequanon - All scientists know that everything is random? That&#8217;s untrue, absurd, and unscientific, hyperbole at best. The evolution of domesticated species, both plant and animal, is absolutely not random. Any farmer or rancher can tell you that species can be guided in their evolution and can point to their fields for living examples of the results. </p>
<p>Overreach by those claiming to be scientific in their thoughts is a great source of modern distrust in science. It&#8217;s a corrosive fault that needs to be pruned out if science is to retain any semblence of the respect and trust that it should have.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1737</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a hilarious "rebuttal" of the "intelligent design" and "creationist" arguments.

In essence the creationist rebuttal ran along the following lines -

1.  Assumption;  God made man in his own image.

2.  If this is so,  one assumes that all of man,  imperfections and all,  are present in God as well.

3.  At the age of sixtyfive,  I have difficulty holding my water through the night.  

4.  There are other bits associated with the same plumbing which don't work too good either.

5.  I can't hold that latter bit against him because we both only have one son.

6.  But why did he have to inflict me with the plumbing problems.  He could at least have allowed one improvement.

The "intelligent design" is slightly different and went something like this -

1.  Man was originally designed as a four-legged creature.

2.  This meant that everything hung from the spine like washing on a clothesline.

3.  The "intelligent designer" thought that man would be improved by standing upright.

4.  As a consequence all the washing now has to defy the law of gravity and hang sideways.

The line of thought ran from there to the design of the pelvis and the difficulty of birthing a large head through a pelvis that has narrow holes so that your guts don't fall through.

Oh what the hay - I thought it was hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a hilarious &#8220;rebuttal&#8221; of the &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; and &#8220;creationist&#8221; arguments.</p>
<p>In essence the creationist rebuttal ran along the following lines -</p>
<p>1.  Assumption;  God made man in his own image.</p>
<p>2.  If this is so,  one assumes that all of man,  imperfections and all,  are present in God as well.</p>
<p>3.  At the age of sixtyfive,  I have difficulty holding my water through the night.  </p>
<p>4.  There are other bits associated with the same plumbing which don&#8217;t work too good either.</p>
<p>5.  I can&#8217;t hold that latter bit against him because we both only have one son.</p>
<p>6.  But why did he have to inflict me with the plumbing problems.  He could at least have allowed one improvement.</p>
<p>The &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; is slightly different and went something like this -</p>
<p>1.  Man was originally designed as a four-legged creature.</p>
<p>2.  This meant that everything hung from the spine like washing on a clothesline.</p>
<p>3.  The &#8220;intelligent designer&#8221; thought that man would be improved by standing upright.</p>
<p>4.  As a consequence all the washing now has to defy the law of gravity and hang sideways.</p>
<p>The line of thought ran from there to the design of the pelvis and the difficulty of birthing a large head through a pelvis that has narrow holes so that your guts don&#8217;t fall through.</p>
<p>Oh what the hay - I thought it was hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read a hilarious "rebuttal" of the "intelligent design" and "creationist" arguments.

In essence the creationist rebuttal ran along the following lines -

1.  Assumption;  God made man in his own image.

2.  If this is so,  one assumes that all of man,  imperfections and all,  are present in God as well.

3.  At the age of sixtyfive,  I have difficulty holding my water through the night.  

4.  There are other bits associated with the same plumbing which don't work too good either.

5.  I can't hold that latter bit against him because we both only have one son.

6.  But why did he have to inflict me with the plumbing problems.  He could at least have allowed one improvement.

The "intelligent design" is slightly different and went something like this -

1.  Man was originally designed as a four-legged creature.

2.  This meant that everything hung from the spine like washing on a clothesline.

3.  The "intelligent designer" thought that man would be improved by standing upright.

4.  As a consequence all the washing now has to defy the law of gravity and hang sideways.

The line of thought ran from there to the design of the pelvis and the difficulty of birthing a large head through a pelvis that has narrow holes so that your guts don't fall through.

Oh what the hay - I thought it was hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a hilarious &#8220;rebuttal&#8221; of the &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; and &#8220;creationist&#8221; arguments.</p>
<p>In essence the creationist rebuttal ran along the following lines -</p>
<p>1.  Assumption;  God made man in his own image.</p>
<p>2.  If this is so,  one assumes that all of man,  imperfections and all,  are present in God as well.</p>
<p>3.  At the age of sixtyfive,  I have difficulty holding my water through the night.  </p>
<p>4.  There are other bits associated with the same plumbing which don&#8217;t work too good either.</p>
<p>5.  I can&#8217;t hold that latter bit against him because we both only have one son.</p>
<p>6.  But why did he have to inflict me with the plumbing problems.  He could at least have allowed one improvement.</p>
<p>The &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; is slightly different and went something like this -</p>
<p>1.  Man was originally designed as a four-legged creature.</p>
<p>2.  This meant that everything hung from the spine like washing on a clothesline.</p>
<p>3.  The &#8220;intelligent designer&#8221; thought that man would be improved by standing upright.</p>
<p>4.  As a consequence all the washing now has to defy the law of gravity and hang sideways.</p>
<p>The line of thought ran from there to the design of the pelvis and the difficulty of birthing a large head through a pelvis that has narrow holes so that your guts don&#8217;t fall through.</p>
<p>Oh what the hay - I thought it was hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooppss sorry about the double post.  Its not that funny.  I got two Error 404 responses from the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooppss sorry about the double post.  Its not that funny.  I got two Error 404 responses from the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinequanon</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1740</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinequanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lutus:

I was only trying to express:  life is a crapshoot.  And, badly at that.  That's what happens when you are in a hurry...  
Sorry for the generalization, and I agree with you.

S-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lutus:</p>
<p>I was only trying to express:  life is a crapshoot.  And, badly at that.  That&#8217;s what happens when you are in a hurry&#8230;<br />
Sorry for the generalization, and I agree with you.</p>
<p>S-</p>
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		<title>By: Sinequanon</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinequanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for reposting again, but I forgot to mention...I've been really into weird fractals, chaos theory, nonlinear theories and some other physics related stuff lately...so, that is most likely what influenced my remark.  I didn't consider the entire realm of science, obviously, when I made the remark...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for reposting again, but I forgot to mention&#8230;I&#8217;ve been really into weird fractals, chaos theory, nonlinear theories and some other physics related stuff lately&#8230;so, that is most likely what influenced my remark.  I didn&#8217;t consider the entire realm of science, obviously, when I made the remark&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Middle Earth Journal</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Middle Earth Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Evolution VS Random Evolution&lt;/strong&gt;

Leading Cardinal Redefines Church's View on Evolution 
An influential cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church, which has long been regarded as an ally of the theory of evolution, is now suggesting that belief in evolution as accepted by science today ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Evolution VS Random Evolution</strong></p>
<p>Leading Cardinal Redefines Church&#8217;s View on Evolution<br />
An influential cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church, which has long been regarded as an ally of the theory of evolution, is now suggesting that belief in evolution as accepted by science today &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: evolution</title>
		<link>http://www.randomfate.net/MT/2005/07/09/evolution-vs-random-evolution/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>evolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;evolution and the church&lt;/strong&gt;

The Commissar notes a widely-linked piece about a Catholic cardinal who appears to reject evolution as being incompatible with Catholic faith. 
	He says, &#8220;I thought the Catholic Church had learned from its little dispute with Galileo.&#8221;
	Th...
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<p>The Commissar notes a widely-linked piece about a Catholic cardinal who appears to reject evolution as being incompatible with Catholic faith.<br />
	He says, &#8220;I thought the Catholic Church had learned from its little dispute with Galileo.&#8221;<br />
	Th&#8230;</p>
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